Sunday, December 12, 2004

Bill gets up a tree about Oaks and water and Joe is always right?????? well, maybe

Joe:
I'm well aware of the settlement from Toll because of the grading contractor error. My comment was in respect to the manner that the problem was handled by the (then) board. It would have been much less confrontational to have made a resolution for a "One-time" variance for these residents and make it known to the rest of the community that this was not setting presidence, it was not to be "grandfathered" it was a one time resolution to be adhered to in the Future. The fire marshal got involved because the sprinklers were not operating properly on that slope and that was an association problem -not the residents. The area we are talkBill: Your facts are half right at best. First, the Pinnacles case was four years in the making. Legal action only took place as a last resort. Second, those slopes are a fuel modification zone. The fire department would not deal with individual homeowners. CZ was on the hook specific to maintaining those slopes which would have been much harder if they were encumbered by fences. And, third at the very time we were dealing with the Pinnacles mess, there were other cases in Atherton and Weatherly. If we had allowed that "varience" a precendent would have been set. There is no way we could have said no to other residents asking for the very same right to move their fences. Remember, Coto is full of attorneys ready to take advantage of any opening. I saw the letters. Please trust that 10 or more Board Members and ultimately a judge reviewed this case from all angles and came to the very same conclusion. This case was never about those 24 homeowners or the fact that they moved their fences; but rather about protecting Association easements all over Coto. It was about protecting the very character of Coto and preventing a barrage of lawsuits that would have otherwise occurred if we had not taken the action that we did. We did not incur all the attacks from Pinnacles homeowners, one of whom is currently on the Board, and one of the worst divisive issues in Coto's history just for the fun of it. There we big issues at stake. Regards, Joe Morabito
ing about is part of the ridgeline Cordellia agreement and probably less than eight feet wide. This is at the top of the hill and will never be used for anything that would have been an imposition to whatever the association wanted to do up there. The money spent on that litigation could have obtained a professional arborist to oversee the movement of the oak trees by Toll and perhaps we would not presently be removing scores of the same trees that have died from neglect. Speaking of the Pinnacles and Oaks, Will those residents ever see a replacement of that majestic Lady that graced their entrance? The sight there now is pitiful in comparison. If you have not seen it was you exit the Oso gate, look where the Pinnacles entrance sign is and where the oak was removed. Is this the typical image of a Coto residential area of two million dollar plus homes or the result of urban renewal and HUD housing?
Bill Gast

Bill: Your facts are half right at best. First, the Pinnacles case was four years in the making. Legal action only took place as a last resort. Second, those slopes are a fuel modification zone. The fire department would not deal with individual homeowners. CZ was on the hook specific to maintaining those slopes which would have been much harder if they were encumbered by fences. And, third at the very time we were dealing with the Pinnacles mess, there were other cases in Atherton and Weatherly. If we had allowed that "varience" a precendent would have been set. There is no way we could have said no to other residents asking for the very same right to move their fences. Remember, Coto is full of attorneys ready to take advantage of any opening. I saw the letters. Please trust that 10 or more Board Members and ultimately a judge reviewed this case from all angles and came to the very same conclusion. This case was never about those 24 homeowners or the fact that they moved their fences; but rather about protecting Association easements all over Coto. It was about protecting the very character of Coto and preventing a barrage of lawsuits that would have otherwise occurred if we had not taken the action that we did. We did not incur all the attacks from Pinnacles homeowners, one of whom is currently on the Board, and one of the worst divisive issues in Coto's history just for the fun of it. There we big issues at stake. Regards, Joe Morabito

Bill,
I agree with you on the importance of the oak trees to the Coto experience. At one time Lennar was committed to having an arborist oversee the health of the transplanted mature oak trees and the association was specifically excluding these trees from areas accepted for maintenance as we could see the decline of some and struggle of others to adapt to their transplanted locations. I don't know what became of that committment the past 4 years. Unfortunately trees were transplanted a year after being dug and boxed when a 4-5 year process is most successful.

-Jan G


John:
The idea of using the subterrain water for irrigation is an excellent idea but methinks that tapping into the Santa Margarita aquifers would bring problems. I know that on my property in Texas, the first thing I wanted to do was drill for a source for some waterfalls and a small stream running on the property. I had the plan already and complete with solar power for the pumps and then was shot down by the Edwards aquifers agency. No drilling. We have two large ecology ponds in the south ranch that may be a viable source for that purpose if investigated. We of course would only use runoff water that is now sent on down the Chiquita valley.
Regards,
Bill Gast
HEY BILL--DOES THE "CHIQUITA VALLEY" go all the way to San Juan Cap?? cotoreporter

1 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unreal! I live in Coto and never knew ANY of this!!! Where are these "Board Meetings " held?? I didn't know we had a meeting place outher than Ruby's????
Stella

December 12, 2004 at 7:48 PM  

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